#last Twilight porjai

[infinitelyprecious]

We got blessed with some truly iconic reactions this week. There's nothing like a besties judgement🤌🏻

Edit: forgot this one

[hummingbirdsinjune]

Kicking, screaming, dying.

How many kids will Mark raise in BL series'?? The count is two.

[visualtaehyun]

Disclaimer: not a native speaker, still learning 🙏

Onto the promised second half of my accumulated language notes on Last Twilight ep. 9-11, this time a short one!

จ้า /jaa/

Perfect subs, no notes. จ้า or จ๋า is an ending particle or interjection that gives vibes of intimacy and being sweet - I kinda melted when he said it.

The fact that Day calls out to his brother in this moment of distress by calling him พี่ไนท์ /phi Night/, whereas they usually use familiar impolite กู/มึง /guu, meung/ with each other, and we see them be physically affectionate now 🥺

หวัดดี อาหมอก อาเดย์ ลุงไนท์ ส��ลูก /wat dee aa Mork aa Day loong Night si luuk/

-> อา /aa/ = a young uncle or aunt; ��ุง /loong/ = an old uncle; ลูก /luuk/ = child, son/daughter

Porjai พอใจ /phaaw jai/ = satisfied, content; satisfactory

Poomjai ภูมิใจ /phuum jai/ = proud

This notion of You're more than 'enough', you're amazing! -

ผมอยากให้คุณภูมิใจในตัวเองนะ ที่แบกท้องคนเดียวมาได้ขนาดนี้อะ /pom yaak hai khun phuum jai nai dtuua ehng na thee baaek thaawng khohn diao maa dai kha naat nee a/

= I want you to be proud of yourself for carrying this pregnancy alone for so long.

Night used to call himself พี่ /phi/ and Porjai เรา /rao/ or น้อง /nong/ up until last episode. That he now uses the more formal ผม /pom/ and คุณ /khun/ is giving such married couple vibes 🥹

-> More on all these pronouns here, where I explained how MorkDay went through the exact opposite pronoun journey

[theflagscene]

10 BL boys people that I want carnally

Wasn’t tagged because everyone seems to have done this expect for me lol!!! Anyways, here we go.

1 - Choi Yuna (my wife)

2 - Nuch (my queen)

3 - Phojai/Porjai

4 - Dean

5 - Mon

6 - Yai (and his wife *coughs* 👀)

7 - Gene

8 - Wei Wuxian (the novel is gay, it counts!)

9 - Yok (my goddess)

10 - Tan

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Thoughts About Last Twilight Finale as I watched it

One part of me is happy to seeing them flirting and getting along, but the other rage-filled part of me that has not healed from episode 11 is honestly kind of upset about them being able to do that again like the breakup wasn't as painful as it was. Like obviously its been several years and i'm glad they aren't holding onto any of the pain from it because that wouldn't be healthy but just.....it hurts a little seeing the characters be okay when i'm still not. (And like it was a painful breakup and we're seeing no trace of that with their interactions).

I appreciate Night and Porjai little attempts to get them to talk and Mhok being a bridesmaid makes me happy.

Ok so they've talked about the breakup and Mhok's thanking Day for it? And saying he was right? So we just aren't going to discuss that fact that Mhok's actions were a combo of things besides pity? Like his trauma with his sister? I want it to be addressed gosh darn it, they haven't talked about it enough in this show. They spent this whole show talking about how Mhok didn't pity him and now you're saying that in an instance where Mhok's actions could be explained by a couple different reasons, you went with "actually he does pity him" as the reason? I just feel like there were better ways this could have been addressed but they had limited time.

"I can't believe its been three years" 

*me, upset, staring at my screen* "Me too"

(You went three years without talking?!?! After breaking up over one argument!?!?)

"Whatever problems you have, talk to each other" where was this advice during episode 11, it could have saved a lot of time and heartbreak

You know what, I'm tired of being upset, bring out Poomjai, i want to see her and have Mhok see her

ok she's out of focus but she looks very sweet

the problem here is that I can't tell if Day is just hesitant to try again with Mhok or actually doesn't want to, so every time Mhok references it I feel awkward. I know its supposed to be a romance show so they'll probably end up together but.....

ok Day made a joke about it so I guess he's not too uncomfortable but still...

Poor mhok.....I honestly hope that if they do decide to get back together, its because Day went after him and told him that he really did want to get back with him because I feel like too much of the show has been Mhok taking the steps forward with their relationship

looks like i get my wish....ah the classic airport scene

I highly doubt he actually left on the plane but you know what, maybe its good to let them sit with this emotion for a little while (I'm sorry, I'm still so mad)

So it was a setup...but how????? like???? what???? If you knew Mhok would be in there, when did he let you know, because there was no point in running around the airport if you knew he would stay....

Honestly I feel like the breakup was pointless now... like yeah they had the conversation about growth and whatever but it feels like Mhok acts the exact same so I don't feel necessarily if he can differentiate between he role as a caretaker and as a boyfriend, which was a legitimate problem. And I also kind of hate that he is apologizing. It just feels like Mhok is once again focusing on others feelings and not his own, and so they will run into the same issue as they did before.

As you can probably tell from all this, I now feel very protective of Mhok and it makes me upset that he hasn't gotten the chance to work through some of his issues. I know he is more the type to pretend everything is okay, but there has to be a limit. Like at the least acknowledgement of his pain

They're having a baby!?!?

We get a happy ending

Final thoughts: 

It was a good show and I enjoyed it for most of it. I understand why they did the breakup (though I don't think it was entirely necessary), and yes it may have been good for them as a couple, however I wish it had either happened earlier or they made the show longer because it felt very quick leading up to it, and I felt like the last episode just didn't have time for them to discuss it in a more meaningful way and actually show why it was beneficial for both of them. I also think it would have given more time for the audience to process everything (it resulted in me thinking too much about the breakup to be able to be happy at some of the good things about episode 12). We got one conversation about why breaking up allowed them to grow, and I just wish we had a bit more than that. I also would have liked it if it had discussed Mhok's troubles and emotions a bit more. It led to the relationship feeling a little bit unbalanced some of the time. Overall (!) I enjoyed it (with the exception of certain storylines that I have already discussed). I don't think I can ever classify as a comfort show again (as I did before episode 11). It was definitely not perfect, but it wasn't an awful show, and so I am going to try and remember the good parts of it.

[thebvbbletea]

Mark Pakin & Namtan Tipnaree as Night & Porjai in Last Twilight ep. 12

[moonkhao]

Do you want me to take your dirty clothes? I'm doing my laundry and… Oh, wow. Look at you all dressed up.

LAST TWILIGHT | EP5

[namtan]

LAST TWILIGHT | Ep 10

[petrichoraline]

porjai reminding night what her situation is by rubbing her belly and forcing him to think about what he's signing up for before they even go out for their first meal.

"pregnant women usually eat a lot" as in "you'll have a lot on your plate", "will you be able to treat me?" as in "do you have what it takes to treat me right?"

mork says that she moved on so fast after they broke up and she did that after leaving her ex as well. porjai's been hurt over and over again in many ways but she always takes a deep breath and then keeps going with a smile and her head held high.

[panncakes]

the only funny thing about if they do go the porjai/night route instead of the porjai/gee route is that p'aof looked at mark pakin and went 'you should be a dad; imma give you pregnant girlfriend' and refuses to revise this evaluation even for new shows

[khaopybara]

NAMTAN TIPNAREE as PORJAI episode 3 of LAST TWILIGHT

[puppy-phum]

last twilight + tweets i saw pt 4

+ bonus:

some things just never change

[waitmyturtles]

Last Twilight, episode 12: final reflections

Wow. It took me all of this past weekend to process this finale, notwithstanding the usual life craziness that has dogged me lately.

Let me preface this whole thing by saying that I'm confused by what I watched. I'd say that, overall -- I actually quite liked this series, and I especially, absolutely ADORED JimmySea, Namtan, and Mark, and their acting. JimmySea kicked major ass, and I really hope they get another big and complicated show to chew on.

I also want to say that between episodes 11 and 12, I felt that I saw uncharacteristic editing clunkiness from Aof Noppharnach and his team that left a lot of necessary emotional and ethical processing on the cutting room floor. I think that's what's ultimately making me feel uneasy about the process of watching this, but -- funnily enough, I'm not nearly as "angry" about the ending as I was with other bad shows that fell apart in their last quarter recently. It was obvious that MhokDay were going to get together.

But I needed to walk a few more steps with them on their journey to that end.

Before I got my eyes on the finale, a few reactions on social media, from Tumblr to Twitter gave me the case of the jibbles. Namely: that the story of Last Twilight would have worked better if Day had stayed blind through the end.

I wasn't really understanding how that construction could work without walking through some sort of ethical minefield.

Now that I've seen the finale -- especially that infamous 4/4 segment -- I understand better what those arguments were saying.

Yet, I'm still dogged by a kind of ethical confusion here. And maybe that was one of the points of this finale, another one of Aof Noppharnach's perhaps now-famous-or-infamous emotionally inconclusive endings.

To me, there are two ethical potholes that this show stumbled on:

1) The ethics WITHIN the fictional piece itself for a character to not depict the process of considering the various fates he might face vis à vis a potentially reversible impairment, and

2) The ethics of a REAL audience ultimately wanting a different outcome for a fictional character to NOT have an impairment reversed.

TL;DR — I don’t think Last Twilight spent enough time having Day consider the permanence or impermanence of the various fates he faced, including permanent blindness. I don’t think the characters, and as such, the audience, spent enough time understanding that a corneal transplant was always going to be Day’s endgame.

Last Twilight was marketed as a show focused on disability, on a man going blind in a society that prioritizes the able-bodied, and how he would adjust to his disability, and of course (this being GMMTV), his falling in love. As fans, we were prepared to receive a whole show about a character with a disability, not as a side pairing, à la Heart and Li Ming in Moonlight Chicken.

It so happened that Day's visual impairment was corneal deterioration -- a condition that could lead to permanent blindness, and thus qualify him for a corneal transplant.

What I'm struggling with is the crux of the ethical dilemma that this show was ALWAYS going to have to deal with: that a corneal impairment of the kind that Day experienced, in the prime of his life, could very well be reversed with surgery, a surgery that has tremendous success rates.

As such -- as we got that clarification in drips throughout the series -- this show was actually not ONLY going to be about the newfound adjustment of a recently-impaired man to an ableist society. It was ALWAYS going to have this door of ANOTHER major change, the reversal of the impairment, just slightly cracked open. I'm not sure that I, as a viewer, was fully prepared for this, even as Night and Mae Mhon spoke about "eye donations" as givens in the middle of the series. I believe the show needed to be much louder, earlier, about the "hope" that Day could "go back" to "living a normal life," instead of framing the high majority of the show around his adjustments to his impairment.

As we went through Day's adjustment to life outside of his room, I believe we needed to hear, FROM DAY HIMSELF, that a corneal transplant was a conclusion that HE believed in, that HE wanted. A failure of this series was that we unfortunately only heard that from his family members, leaving us to only ASSUME that the conclusion of the reversal of his impairment was ALSO Day's intention.

For a story that was very much about an individual's developing agency and self-advocacy: I believe I needed to hear from Day himself that he was good and ready for the final surgery. I only assume that was the case, as I saw his own body and mind in the hospital. But I believe, for dramatic success, that I could have used a basic, "I'm ready," from him, to make segment 4/4 more complete and contextual, against the story of adjustment and resilience we had so far seen before then.

And what a story of adjustment and resilience we had gotten, as Day had established a full career for himself, without Mhok next to him, during one of the time jumps of episode 12.

For my sake, as I process what I watched this weekend, I want to come to grips with what I thought were the major themes of this show, and see if I can come to some sort of sensible conclusion about what happened here.

This show was focused on:

1) the romance between Day and Mhok, 2) Mhok's caretaking and companionship being the lever to help Day out of his room and back into the world from which he had retreated after the onset of his visual impairment, 3) Day slowly learning how to function again in a society that prioritizes the able-bodied vis à vis his visual impairment, 4) Day learning how to self-advocate for himself in the face of those who condescend to him and/or keep him trapped in compassion bias postures,

and more that I'm sure I'm missing, but those are the themes that resonated the most with me.

I think the general feeling on Tumblr is that, save for the romance, that themes 3 and 4 were contradicted out of existence in the face of the sudden flip to the surgery of segment 4/4.

I think not hearing from Day himself that he was ready and willing for the surgery was a lost moment. I don't believe Day was ever acting as if he would choose anything else OTHER than surgery throughout the series. BUT, AT THE SAME TIME: what we had watched prior to 4/4 was his story of adjustment.

My biggest ethical concern here, vis à vis the audience reactions that I've read, is that NO ONE -- in fiction or in real life -- owes me a story of heroism. If there is an individual who has been impaired since birth, or is dealing with a degenerative condition later in their life, and has the opportunity to address or reverse the condition, who am I to say that that individual SHOULD NOT address their condition?

For me, this is huge. I believe this is a huge ethical dilemma that Last Twilight ultimately does not face. I wish this series had been much more centered, earlier on, about the utter REALITY that Day could have his condition reversed by surgery, in words he'd say himself, rather than assumptions made for him, on behalf of his family, who.... I presume were established to be some sort of legal conservators for him, as Mhon continued to be the one to receive eye donation text messages.

(I concede that I don't know if this is a more common set-up for disabled individuals in Thailand, as I would assume in the States, that Day himself would have been the one to receive that message directly.)

For this show to have seemed emotionally and artistically complete: I needed to hear from Day himself that surgery was an endgame that he was banking his hopes on. I also needed to understand, much more statistically clearly vis à vis the show, of the absolute risks that Day faced towards having permanent blindness for the rest of his life. Because the show ALSO needed to focus on the establishment of the romance between Mhok and Day, we missed out on the show taking time to explain to us, the viewers, of the absolute risks that Day faced in any of these scenarios -- and thus, we would have had MUCH more context into the nuances of the resilience that Day needed to establish for himself as he re-adjusted to society, with his numerous fates lying before him.

I'm going to borrow the words of @hallowpen in their final review here, to say that this show at the end needed much more "breathing room." I think @hallowpen is so right in saying it like this, because these two factors that I just laid out, geez -- the first 7/8ths of the series being about Day's social adjustment against the utter suddenness of the successful surgery and his sudden jump back to what's been translated as his "normal life" -- just clash so tonally. (I do wonder if we're getting as nuanced a translation on "normal" as we could be.)

I think this is about the most confused final review of a show that I've written. There is an ethical heaviness to all of this that's weighing on me, that I think I still need time to comb through.

I also feel that I simply do not know enough, by way of my lack of cultural competency into how Thai society approaches issues of public and private health, if Day’s unseen choice to get the surgery would have been a given among majority Thai audiences, AND that majority Thai audiences would not have asked for the kind of internal debates that I think the show could have used.

I feel thrilled that Day can see Poomjai/Mee, after making that wish in episode 11.

But I think, if this show was about a journey for someone to learn how to successfully advocate for his own agency -- that, at the very end, I needed to see that agency exercised, by him, to get to the part of the reversal of the impairment that I assumed he wanted.

Again: Day doesn't owe me his story of heroism. If fiction doesn't want to give me that, from a character with a recent impairment, I don't have the right to ask for it.

But the missing bits of artistry to get me, the viewer, to only an assumption, has led me to surprising ethical places, that will leave me wondering about what happened in this series for a long time.

[hirmienworld]

In his head, Night is already married to Porjai and they raise their daughter together. And I deeply respect and admire him for this, he doesn't get romantically close to a pregnant woman without being ready to take on everything and he is SO MUCH READY.

[isbelevans]

the old married couple vibes in this scene >>>

LAST TWILIGHT EPISODE 12

[moonkhao]

I'm sorry. I take so much of your boyfriend's time. Boyfriend? Yes. What? No!! He's not my boyfriend.

LAST TWILIGHT | EP4